obama would love to take it off the table now. there's no way republicans are going to give that up. it's a crucial piece of leverage than the tax rates. as we saw a year and a half ago, that is really sort of putting the basic fiscal health of the country at risk. a lot of republicans are looking at that saying this is a much better chance to get the big changes on entitlements we would like to find. >> andy, i ask this to both of you, eleanor, too. i'll start with eleanor. what are the chances that game is not going to get tied into this? the president was very specific when he gave the speech to the business round table this week talking about the fact this is not a game he's looking to play once again. what are the odds that will not be involved? >> the odds are it will not be involved. the president has important allies this time, that's the business community. the republican party has been the party of business, you know, big business, small business. the business community does not want to go through all that wrangling over